Sunday, 9 February 2014
Positive points for Protestants
Some really positive points in favour of the 30000 PROT denominations..this goes right along with Romans ch 8 verse 28... All things not just most things work together for good to them that love GOD..
POINT 1
It will be very hard for the ac to get you all... You are so many and so spread out...30,000...... those big bird cats are easy meat.. They hung Drew and quartered them by the 1000s in the 16 the century.. Priest And Nuns and laity all got it in the neck...
POINT 2
you really love the WORD OF GOD. Especially the easily understood parts.Cats hardly read their bibles..shame on them....
POINT 3
When we meet PROTS in the street, many times they are much nicer and helpful than many very self righteous cats..
POINT 4
They actually commit the Word of a God to memory especially key verses..and think that is important!! Cats hardly know one verse in the Bible with its reference address eg john ch 3 v 16
POINT 5
I personally have more real PROT friends than cat friends
POINT 6
There are more positive points...maybe you can add some...
POINT 7
They are more humble and less self righteous generally speaking from my experiencE
POINT 8
And and and
Thursday, 30 January 2014
JOHN CH 20 verse 21
JOHN CHAPTER 20 AMENDED...
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On 27 Jan 2014, at 22:55, Michael Jaffray King wrote:
JOHN CHAPTER 20 VERSE 21 AS MY FATHER SENT ME SO SEND I YOU...
NOW THAT IS VERY CLEAR..
SO HOW DID GOD SEND JESUS WHAT HAPPENED?
GOD MUST HAVE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO HIS SON JESUS...
SON I LOVE THE PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD SO SO MUCH... I HAVE A VERY TOUGH JOB FOR YOU TO DO... I WANT YOU TO LEAVE THIS WONDERFUL HEAVEN THAT YOU LIVE IN AND GO AND LIVE AMONG THESE PEOPLE THAT WE CREATED. I WANT YOU TO SHOW OUR LOVE TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND EVENTUALLY THIS LOVE AND SALVATION MESSAGE WILL REACH TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH....BUT I AM SAD TO SAY.... THE MAJORITY AND ESPECIALLY THE RELIGIOUS RULERS WILL TREAT YOU TERRIBLY... THEY WILL BE MOTIVATED AND CONTROLLED BY SATAN OUR JEALOUS AND BITTER ENEMY....YOU WILL TRAIN 12 FOLLOWERS WHO WILL BE WITH YOU ALL THE TIME FOR AROUND 3 1/2 YEARS... YOU WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT.... TEACHING YOUR 12 FOLLOWERS TO BECOME FISHERS OF MEN.... YOU WILL ALSO SPEND A MUCH SHORTER TIME WITH THE MASSES OF THE PEOPLE... HEALING THEM.... COMFORTING THEM... TEACHING THEM USING SIMPLE ILLUSTRATIONS.... TEACHING THEM ABOUT OUR KINGDOM WHICH WILL LAST FOREVER AND EVER...HOWEVER THE RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT WILL BE EXTREMELY JEALOUS OF YOUR SUCCESS... AND WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT... I WILL ALLOW THEM TO CAPTURE YOU AND TORTURE YOU AND KILL YOU... I WILL ALLOW YOU TO BE A HUMAN SACRIFICE FOR THE SINS OF THE WICKEDNESS OF ALL THOSE IN THE WORLD... YOU WILL BE A HUMAN SACRIFICIAL LAMB.... A LAMB THAT HAS NEVER SINNED ...WITHOUT A BLEMISH...YOU WILL POUR OUT YOUR BLOOD FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.... WHEN YOU DO THIS VOLUNTARILY.... SATAN WILL BE DEFEATED SO THAT ALL WHO BELIEVE IN YOU AND ACCEPT YOU WILL BE GRANTED FORGIVENESS AND SALVATION FOR THEIR SOULS...THEY WILL BE FREED FROM THE GRIP OF SATAN...THEY WILL RECEIVE THE ABILITY TO BECOME SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD......SEE JOHN CH 1 V 12......THE THIRD DAY AFTER YOUR DEATH YOU WILL RISE FROM THE GRAVE.... YOU WILL APPEAR TO YOUR FOLLOWERS FOR 40 DAYS.... YOU WILL BRING THEM GREAT JOY AND COMFORT DURING THIS TIME.... THEN YOU WILL RISE IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES INTO THE CLOUDS AND DISAPPEAR FROM HUMAN SIGHT... 10 DAYS AFTER THIS WE BOTH WILL SEND THE HOLY SPIRIT TO GIVE POWER TO ALL YOUR FOLLOWERS TO GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THIS EXTRAORDINARY GOOD NEWS TO EVERY CREATURE....
JOHN CH 3V16....FOR I GOD LOVE THE WORLD SO MUCH THAT I WILL GIVE YOU MY SON TO THEM, THAT IF THEY WILL ONLY BELIEVE AND ACCEPT YOU AND THE PRICELESS FREE GIFT OF SALVATION AT YOUR EXPENSE...THEN THEY CAN HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WITH US IN OUR KINGDOM...
........SO THAT IS WHAT THE FATHER WANTED THE SON TO DO..NOW THE SON WANTS US TO DO THE SAME AS HE DID....WE ARE TO FORSAKE OUR COMFORTABLE HOMES AND POSITIONS IN SOCIETY AND BECOME NOT FISHERS OF FISH BUT FISHERS OF MEN...TO BE A DISCIPLE I WILL REQUIRE YOU TO GIVE UP ALL THAT YOU HAVE...SEE LUKE CH 14 VERSE 33....SEE LUKE ch. 9 v 23... YOU WILL FISH FOR SOULS AND THEN YOU WILL TEACH THEM TO DO THE SAME AS I HAVE TAUGHT YOU SO THAT THEY CAN CARRY ON THIS GREAT WORK OF SALVATION UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD.
I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHERS WHO CAN SAY THIS BETTER THAN ME..but that should give us all a good idea as to what the responsibility and dedication must be to be a true follower of JESUS Christ.
HE GAVE HIS ALL FOR US AND NOW HE EXPECTS US TO GIVE OUR ALL FOR HIM....LORD HELP EACH ONE OF US TO TRY AND TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY...I BELIEVE IF WE DO NOT VOLUNTARILY DO THIS THEN THE DAYS WILL SOON COME WITH PERSECUTION WHEN WE WILL BE FORCED TO FORSAKE ALL...CHECK OUT THESE TWO VERSES...THEY ARE EXTREMELY INTERESTING... ACTS CH 1 V 8... THIS WAS THE PLAN FOR WORLD OUTREACH....FIRST JERUSALEM...THEN JUDEA....THEN SAMARIA....THEN TO THE UTTERMOST PARTS OF THE EARTH.....DISOBEDIENCE RESULTED IN ACTS CH 8 V 1..And 8...1. THE EARLY DISCIPLES WERE RELUCTANT TO CARRY OUT 1....8 SO GOD ALLOWED PERSECUTION IN 8....1
COINCIDENCE IN THE NUMBERING??? NO I DO NOT THINK SO.....
THY WILL BE DONE AND HELP US NOT TO FREAK OUT BUT TO TRUST IN HIM FOR EVERY SITUATION AS IT COMES UPON US...bye for now MJK.
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Tuesday, 28 January 2014
THE CHALLENGE...!!!!
CHALLENGE... THE GREATEST CHALLENGE ON EARTH...
Luke ch 9 verse 23....IF ANY MAN WOULD COME AFTER ME LET HIM DENY HIMSELF AND TAKE UP HIS CROSS EVERY SINGLE DAY WITHOUT HOLIDAYS... AND FOLLOW ME...
I am human and I get very discouraged because my children have pretty much rejected the message.. We have not been just preaching this message but actually living it for at least 40 years...My kids know exactly what is involved in being a real DISCIPLE....they were forced by circumstances relating to their birth into my family to live in the unusually rough and tough conditions of discipleship... Normal Christian kids born into a more just believer environment are not challenged beyond just going to a cozy fellowship once a week in a comfortable place with nice music and yummy food. Maybe they read the Bible without really putting it into practise as JESUS told them to but just get a job settle down have children and teach them this same way of life....ROMAN CATHOLICS who can trace their origin right back to the early forsake all and go into all the world church, realise that there is a great distinction between discipleship..like being a NUN or a BROTHER where they take the vow of poverty chastity and obedience... And just being a Lay member. A believer in other words..
Priests are not allowed to marry because they are meant to be married to their flock and not side tracked by the inevitable responsibilities of being a husband and a father or mother....Pope Francis just gave a sermon about how a falling tree makes much more noise than all the trees just quietly growing in the forest. These majority of trees never catch the news... Only the fallen ones... I like that analogy very much.. It is brilliant... Priests can earn a salary where as those in orders like Franciscans and Dominicans do not get more than maybe a little pocket money to but essential socks and undergarments..To try and make it more attractive, priests were offered a salary but it has not always been the case...PROTESTANTS HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THIS....BILLY GRAHAM IS CONSIDERED TO BE A DISCIPLE OF JESUS CHRIST...HE LIVES IN A MANSION WITH GUARDS AND GUNS AND IS VERY RICH....DOES THAT REALLY SOUND LIKE JESUS??YOU CAN SAY THAT THE POPE LIVES IN LUXURY...VATICAN....IT IS MORE LIKE A PRISON AND THIS PRESENT POPE IS ALL FOR LIVING SIMPLY JUST LIKE JESUS...
Of course none of us is perfect, but now because a good friend has been challenging me and trying to make me feel bad and stupid, I am taking up the challenge and it is making me think very deeply about this whole subject...WHEN MY LITTLE GROUP BECAME THE RED LETTER KIDS WE BECAME SO UNPOPULAR WITH THE PROTESTANTS...THE GREAT DAVE WILKERSON WITH HIS GOSPEL ENTERTAINMENT CHURCH IN NEW YORK WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH US AND THE ONLY HELP AND RECOGNITION WE RECEIVED WAS FROM A CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN RETREAT CENTRE CALLED MY FATHERS HOUSE IN NEW YORK STATE.
I HOPE YOU CAN NOW BETTER SEE THE DIFFERENCE.. IT IS EASY TO SHOOT DOWN THE CATS ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE TRYING SO HARD TO JUSTIFY YOUR POSITION... THERE IS PLENTY OF DIRTY LAUNDRY TO BE FOUND BUT JUST CHECK OUT THE EARLY CHURCHES IN REVELATION CHAPTER 2&3 AND YOU WILL FIND THAT SATAN WAS ALREADY AT WORK. I really like the story of the man out duck hunting..... He was shooting ducks right and left and bringing them down... He told his servant to bag the live ones and leave the dead ones lay... Those live ones could fly away because they had only been a little bit wounded.... The dead ones could be picked up at leisure.... Have you got It? Are you a live one or are you a dead one??THE ANSWER IS UP TO YOU.....
Monday, 27 January 2014
AS MY FATHER SENT ME, SO SEND I YOU...JOHN CH 20 V 21
JOHN CHAPTER 20 AMENDED...
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On 27 Jan 2014, at 22:55, Michael Jaffray King wrote:
JOHN CHAPTER 20 VERSE 21 AS MY FATHER SENT ME SO SEND I YOU...
NOW THAT IS VERY CLEAR..
SO HOW DID GOD SEND JESUS WHAT HAPPENED?
GOD MUST HAVE SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO HIS SON JESUS...
SON I LOVE THE PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD SO SO MUCH... I HAVE A VERY TOUGH JOB FOR YOU TO DO... I WANT YOU TO LEAVE THIS WONDERFUL HEAVEN THAT YOU LIVE IN AND GO AND LIVE AMONG THESE PEOPLE THAT WE CREATED. I WANT YOU TO SHOW OUR LOVE TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND EVENTUALLY THIS LOVE AND SALVATION MESSAGE WILL REACH TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH....BUT I AM SAD TO SAY.... THE MAJORITY AND ESPECIALLY THE RELIGIOUS RULERS WILL TREAT YOU TERRIBLY... THEY WILL BE MOTIVATED AND CONTROLLED BY SATAN OUR JEALOUS AND BITTER ENEMY....YOU WILL TRAIN 12 FOLLOWERS WHO WILL BE WITH YOU ALL THE TIME FOR AROUND 3 1/2 YEARS... YOU WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT.... TEACHING YOUR 12 FOLLOWERS TO BECOME FISHERS OF MEN.... YOU WILL ALSO SPEND A MUCH SHORTER TIME WITH THE MASSES OF THE PEOPLE... HEALING THEM.... COMFORTING THEM... TEACHING THEM USING SIMPLE ILLUSTRATIONS.... TEACHING THEM ABOUT OUR KINGDOM WHICH WILL LAST FOREVER AND EVER...HOWEVER THE RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT WILL BE EXTREMELY JEALOUS OF YOUR SUCCESS... AND WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT... I WILL ALLOW THEM TO CAPTURE YOU AND TORTURE YOU AND KILL YOU... I WILL ALLOW YOU TO BE A HUMAN SACRIFICE FOR THE SINS OF THE WICKEDNESS OF ALL THOSE IN THE WORLD... YOU WILL BE A HUMAN SACRIFICIAL LAMB.... A LAMB THAT HAS NEVER SINNED ...WITHOUT A BLEMISH...YOU WILL POUR OUT YOUR BLOOD FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.... WHEN YOU DO THIS VOLUNTARILY.... SATAN WILL BE DEFEATED SO THAT ALL WHO BELIEVE IN YOU AND ACCEPT YOU WILL BE GRANTED FORGIVENESS AND SALVATION FOR THEIR SOULS...THEY WILL BE FREED FROM THE GRIP OF SATAN...THEY WILL RECEIVE THE ABILITY TO BECOME SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD......SEE JOHN CH 1 V 12......THE THIRD DAY AFTER YOUR DEATH YOU WILL RISE FROM THE GRAVE.... YOU WILL APPEAR TO YOUR FOLLOWERS FOR 40 DAYS.... YOU WILL BRING THEM GREAT JOY AND COMFORT DURING THIS TIME.... THEN YOU WILL RISE IN FRONT OF THEIR EYES INTO THE CLOUDS AND DISAPPEAR FROM HUMAN SIGHT... 10 DAYS AFTER THIS WE BOTH WILL SEND THE HOLY SPIRIT TO GIVE POWER TO ALL YOUR FOLLOWERS TO GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THIS EXTRAORDINARY GOOD NEWS TO EVERY CREATURE....
JOHN CH 3V16....FOR I GOD LOVE THE WORLD SO MUCH THAT I WILL GIVE YOU MY SON TO THEM, THAT IF THEY WILL ONLY BELIEVE AND ACCEPT YOU AND THE PRICELESS FREE GIFT OF SALVATION AT YOUR EXPENSE...THEN THEY CAN HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WITH US IN OUR KINGDOM...
........SO THAT IS WHAT THE FATHER WANTED THE SON TO DO..NOW THE SON WANTS US TO DO THE SAME AS HE DID....WE ARE TO FORSAKE OUR COMFORTABLE HOMES AND POSITIONS IN SOCIETY AND BECOME NOT FISHERS OF FISH BUT FISHERS OF MEN...TO BE A DISCIPLE I WILL REQUIRE YOU TO GIVE UP ALL THAT YOU HAVE...SEE LUKE CH 14 VERSE 33....SEE LUKE ch. 9 v 23... YOU WILL FISH FOR SOULS AND THEN YOU WILL TEACH THEM TO DO THE SAME AS I HAVE TAUGHT YOU SO THAT THEY CAN CARRY ON THIS GREAT WORK OF SALVATION UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD.
I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHERS WHO CAN SAY THIS BETTER THAN ME..but that should give us all a good idea as to what the responsibility and dedication must be to be a true follower of JESUS Christ.
HE GAVE HIS ALL FOR US AND NOW HE EXPECTS US TO GIVE OUR ALL FOR HIM....LORD HELP EACH ONE OF US TO TRY AND TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY...I BELIEVE IF WE DO NOT VOLUNTARILY DO THIS THEN THE DAYS WILL SOON COME WITH PERSECUTION WHEN WE WILL BE FORCED TO FORSAKE ALL...CHECK OUT THESE TWO VERSES...THEY ARE EXTREMELY INTERESTING... ACTS CH 1 V 8... THIS WAS THE PLAN FOR WORLD OUTREACH....FIRST JERUSALEM...THEN JUDEA....THEN SAMARIA....THEN TO THE UTTERMOST PARTS OF THE EARTH.....DISOBEDIENCE RESULTED IN ACTS CH 8 V 1..And 8...1. THE EARLY DISCIPLES WERE RELUCTANT TO CARRY OUT 1....8 SO GOD ALLOWED PERSECUTION IN 8....1
COINCIDENCE IN THE NUMBERING??? NO I DO NOT THINK SO.....
THY WILL BE DONE AND HELP US NOT TO FREAK OUT BUT TO TRUST IN HIM FOR EVERY SITUATION AS IT COMES UPON US...bye for now MJK.
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Saturday, 25 January 2014
Disciples and Believers...Are they the same thing???
DISCIPLES AND BELIEVERS, ARE THEY THE SAME THING?
Okay I'm going to tackle this without opening my Bible.... I have memorized a lot of key verses in the Bible together with their references.
So for starters I'm just going to go on what I can remember... I've been a Christian for nearly 50 years and a pretty active one at that... It is always a good thing to start with prayer... Not just any old prayer..... But the Lord's prayer.... The one HE taught us to pray...SO Ohere goes!!
OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN.
HALLOWED BE THY NAME.
THY KINGDOM COME.
THY WILL BE DONE.
ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD.
AND FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES, AS WE FORGIVE THOSE, WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US.
AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION,
BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
AMEN!,
Some people are of the opinion that all Christians are disciples...
I THINK THEY CAN BE BUT LET US TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT JESUS SAYS IS THE COST...
LET'S START WITH A FEW QUOTES THAT ARE WELL-KNOWN.
BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALL BE SAVED. NOTHING ABOUT BEING A DISCIPLE IN THAT VERSE... EMPHASIS ON BELIEF...
SO LIKEWISE WHOSOEVER HE BE OF YOU THAT FORSAKES NOT ALL THAT HE HAS HE CANNOT BE A DISCIPLE... EMPHASIS HERE ON FORSAKING EVERYTHING ......IT DOES NOT SAY HE CANNOT BE A BELIEVER....
THERE WERE THREE GUYS WHO SAID THEY WANTED TO FOLLOW JESUS.... ONE SAID I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW YOU.... AND JESUS WHO KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON IS MIND.... SAID.... FOXES HAVE HOLES BIRDS OF THE AIR HAVE NESTS BUT THE SON OF MAN HAS NO PLACE TO LAY HIS HEAD.... THIS MAN IS NEVER HEARD OFF AGAIN .....ANOTHER SAID I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW YOU BUT PLEASE LET ME BURY MY DAD FIRST..... THAT WAS A PRETTY REASONABLE REQUEST.. I CAN CATCH YOU UP LATER GIVE ME A COUPLE OF DAYS TO DO THAT.... JESUS REPLIED A VERY TOUGH REPLY..... LET THE DEAD BURY THE DEAD YOU GO AND PREACH THE GOSPEL..... THEN ANOTHER GUY SAID.... I'M YOUR MAN I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU..... BUT MY PARENTS COULD BE A LITTLE WORRIED SO I NEED TO SAY GOODBYE TO THEM.... AGAIN A REASONABLE REQUEST.... JESUS MADE ANOTHER VERY TOUGH REPLY... NO MAN WHO PUTS HIS HAND TO THE PLOW AND LOOKS BACK IS FIT FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD.... OW,!!!! THAT HURTS!!!!
Nearly all the people that Jesus healed did not follow him as disciples...
I AM SURE THEY WERE BELIEVERS TO ONE EXTENT OR ANOTHER....
I really think it is time to rest my case....
THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST BEING A WEEKLY CHURCH FELLOWSHIP BELIEVER AND A FULL-TIME WILD STARRY EYED FANATICAL LOVER OF JESUS WHO IS PREPARED TO GO ANYWHERE AT ANYTIME.... AM I A DISCIPLE OR AM I A BELIEVER.??.
A VERY GOOD QUESTION..... I AM A BELIEVER.... TRYING TO BE AS MUCH OF A DISCIPLE AS I CAN... AS I HAVE THE FAITH FOR...
THERE IS TONS MORE TO STUDY BUT I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS..
TO ME IT IS JUST COMMON SENSE.....
Wednesday, 22 January 2014
Personal evangelism compared with Mass evangelism.....
Personal evangelism as compared with Mass evangelism.....
Mass evangelism played a great part in my conversion.... I asked Jesus into my heart in a Railway train when I was all by myself, but I went to a Billy Graham Crusade, shortly after my personal encounter with Christ on the train going up to London to work at Lloyd's.... The atmosphere at the crusade was very emotional almost electric..... However it taught me that this was probably the best and only way to win souls... I always wanted to win souls...... If Jesus could do this for me I wanted to see HIM do it for everyone else.... I definitely did not want to keep this experience selfishly for myself..... By the providence of God I met the navigator team in London...Ed Rice and Doug Sparks and their charming families.... They were the current experts at soul winning on a one to one basis.They are still doing a very good job today as well... They had a world vision.... But how could one on one multiply and reach the whole world.... They explained to me..... If I win two souls..... And train them up so that they can win two souls each.... Then in just two jumps we would have a total of six souls...... Then in 10 jumps we would reach 1000.... Now wait for this, this sounds extraordinary...... In just 28 jumps...... We reach the whole world population...... 28 is not a very big number....... 6 billion is a big number...... So to reach 6 billion you just need 28 jumps of MULTIPLICATION.....2 becomes 4 becomes 8 becomes 16 becomes 32 becomes 64 becomes 132 becomes 264 becomes let's say 250 to make the math easier....becomes 500.... Becomes 1000.... Becomes 2000....4000.....8000.....16000......32000....64000.....132000...250000....500000....1000000
So in 20 jumps we reach 1 million.......
Now the real payoff is that each person reached is not just a bench warming do very little Christian but is a trained Christian multiplying soul winning disciple.....beat that!!!!!!!!!!! Now the navigators have been working for 80 years..... If you check out their website they are currently working in 100 countries worldwide... That is pretty good..... They are even surviving in countries that are closed to the Gospel..... They do not make a big splash but are like underground workers working out of sight...
This could really be a way forward during the coming days weeks months years of severe Christian
persecution.....
Now To return a little too mass evangelism.... In the Bible we see that Jesus practiced both..... Mass evangelism was particularly effective when Jesus did his miracles...... One dramatic healing miracle would be witnessed by hundreds or thousands...... These hundreds and thousands however were not the effective converts that took the gospel into all the world.... That was left to his inner core which he trained personally himself.... The 12..... So this is not the case of either/or but of the good old Roman Catholic both/and.. However today in all repeat all Christian gatherings, with the exception of NAVIGATOR groups and the team that I grounded in Slovakia.... Personal one on one evangelism is totally neglected...... This is so sad..... Because Christians are not being taught how to share their faith with others..... Just bring them along to our Christian meeting and then you will have done your job...
I will end by telling you a quick true personal story.... When my team was working in Odessa in the Ukraine....
The famous mass Evangelist...REINHARD BONKE ..... Held a three day healing crusade and Gospel crusade.... Our little team decided to help out in distributing the flyers to invite the population to
come to the stadium... I think the six of us gave out more flyers then all the Pentecostal churches in the area put together... On the first day Rinehart gave a great sermon... One old man that we personally knew who walked on crutches.... Was seemingly miraculously healed..... He threw away his crutches and walked staggering a bit..... The crowd was amazed..... The next day however we found the man walking around on his crutches...... Busloads of church people were being lifted in to Odesa for the second day..... By now our little team was beginning to see how fruitless this method of evangelism really was... On the final day which was meant to draw the biggest crowds..... With all the church members praying in prayer meetings for this special last day...... The Lord allowed the biggest rainstorm to flood the stadium and there was no meeting....WHY??? You may well Ask???We tried to contact Reinhard to help him to see that if he concentrated more on exhorting the masses to personally evangelise, then he would reach many many more people.. But he had already left for Kiev...
Please help me to spread this message of one on one...I need to pay more attention to this too..Lord
help us all...?
Just imagine what a revival there would be if the pastors of churches both big and small would both practice personal evangelism themselves, then teach their congregations to do the same?????!!!!!!
Mass evangelism played a great part in my conversion.... I asked Jesus into my heart in a Railway train when I was all by myself, but I went to a Billy Graham Crusade, shortly after my personal encounter with Christ on the train going up to London to work at Lloyd's.... The atmosphere at the crusade was very emotional almost electric..... However it taught me that this was probably the best and only way to win souls... I always wanted to win souls...... If Jesus could do this for me I wanted to see HIM do it for everyone else.... I definitely did not want to keep this experience selfishly for myself..... By the providence of God I met the navigator team in London...Ed Rice and Doug Sparks and their charming families.... They were the current experts at soul winning on a one to one basis.They are still doing a very good job today as well... They had a world vision.... But how could one on one multiply and reach the whole world.... They explained to me..... If I win two souls..... And train them up so that they can win two souls each.... Then in just two jumps we would have a total of six souls...... Then in 10 jumps we would reach 1000.... Now wait for this, this sounds extraordinary...... In just 28 jumps...... We reach the whole world population...... 28 is not a very big number....... 6 billion is a big number...... So to reach 6 billion you just need 28 jumps of MULTIPLICATION.....2 becomes 4 becomes 8 becomes 16 becomes 32 becomes 64 becomes 132 becomes 264 becomes let's say 250 to make the math easier....becomes 500.... Becomes 1000.... Becomes 2000....4000.....8000.....16000......32000....64000.....132000...250000....500000....1000000
So in 20 jumps we reach 1 million.......
Now the real payoff is that each person reached is not just a bench warming do very little Christian but is a trained Christian multiplying soul winning disciple.....beat that!!!!!!!!!!! Now the navigators have been working for 80 years..... If you check out their website they are currently working in 100 countries worldwide... That is pretty good..... They are even surviving in countries that are closed to the Gospel..... They do not make a big splash but are like underground workers working out of sight...
This could really be a way forward during the coming days weeks months years of severe Christian
persecution.....
Now To return a little too mass evangelism.... In the Bible we see that Jesus practiced both..... Mass evangelism was particularly effective when Jesus did his miracles...... One dramatic healing miracle would be witnessed by hundreds or thousands...... These hundreds and thousands however were not the effective converts that took the gospel into all the world.... That was left to his inner core which he trained personally himself.... The 12..... So this is not the case of either/or but of the good old Roman Catholic both/and.. However today in all repeat all Christian gatherings, with the exception of NAVIGATOR groups and the team that I grounded in Slovakia.... Personal one on one evangelism is totally neglected...... This is so sad..... Because Christians are not being taught how to share their faith with others..... Just bring them along to our Christian meeting and then you will have done your job...
I will end by telling you a quick true personal story.... When my team was working in Odessa in the Ukraine....
The famous mass Evangelist...REINHARD BONKE ..... Held a three day healing crusade and Gospel crusade.... Our little team decided to help out in distributing the flyers to invite the population to
come to the stadium... I think the six of us gave out more flyers then all the Pentecostal churches in the area put together... On the first day Rinehart gave a great sermon... One old man that we personally knew who walked on crutches.... Was seemingly miraculously healed..... He threw away his crutches and walked staggering a bit..... The crowd was amazed..... The next day however we found the man walking around on his crutches...... Busloads of church people were being lifted in to Odesa for the second day..... By now our little team was beginning to see how fruitless this method of evangelism really was... On the final day which was meant to draw the biggest crowds..... With all the church members praying in prayer meetings for this special last day...... The Lord allowed the biggest rainstorm to flood the stadium and there was no meeting....WHY??? You may well Ask???We tried to contact Reinhard to help him to see that if he concentrated more on exhorting the masses to personally evangelise, then he would reach many many more people.. But he had already left for Kiev...
Please help me to spread this message of one on one...I need to pay more attention to this too..Lord
help us all...?
Just imagine what a revival there would be if the pastors of churches both big and small would both practice personal evangelism themselves, then teach their congregations to do the same?????!!!!!!
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